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UM-FSU is a rivalry game, but Noles are out to prove they’re elite again

Oct 5, 2024; Tallahassee, Florida, USA; Florida State Seminoles head coach Mike Norvell during the second half against the Clemson Tigers at Doak S. Campbell Stadium.
Oct 5, 2024; Tallahassee, Florida, USA; Florida State Seminoles head coach Mike Norvell during the second half against the Clemson Tigers at Doak S. Campbell Stadium. Imagn Images

Florida State has been chasing the same ghost for decades now.

Not the wide rights or the heartbreaks, but the feeling of a program too steady and powerful to get left out of college football’s elite conversations.

Saturday night against Miami, the Seminoles once again have a chance to prove they’re still in that tier.

The setup couldn’t be better: prime time on ABC, a sold-out Doak Campbell Stadium, ESPN’s A team of Chris Fowler, Kirk Herbstreit, and Holly Rowe on the call. Lee Corso, who wore garnet and gold long before the headgear, will be in attendance.

For head coach Mike Norvell, this isn’t just another ACC game. It’s a proving ground.

“You’ll see a sold-out Doak Campbell Stadium, night time, prime time,” Norvell said. “A wonderful stage to show this team who we are, what we’re about, and the response we’re going to have.”

The response matters because Florida State is coming off a double-overtime loss at Virginia. That stumble dropped the Seminoles (3-1) to 18th in the AP Poll and reignited doubts that consistency is still missing.

THE STATISTICAL CASE

On paper, Florida State has one of the most explosive offenses in America. The Seminoles average 53 points per game, 600 yards per game and have more 40-yard plays than anyone. They started the year by toppling No. 8 Alabama, scored at least 31 in every game since and set a school record with 498 rushing yards against Kent State.

Sep 6, 2025; Tallahassee, Florida, USA; Florida State Seminoles quarterback Tommy Castellanos (1) runs the ball during the first half against the East Texas A&M Lions at Doak S. Campbell Stadium.
Sep 6, 2025; Tallahassee, Florida, USA; Florida State Seminoles quarterback Tommy Castellanos (1) runs the ball during the first half against the East Texas A&M Lions at Doak S. Campbell Stadium. Melina Myers Imagn Images

But the loss at Virginia raised an uncomfortable question: if you’re truly a perennial power, do you lose that game?

Norvell didn’t dodge the issue.

“Some things showed up that are unacceptable to what we expect out of ourselves,” he said. “Our guys battled, but there’s a lot of growth that needs to happen. I know what we’re capable of, and I’ve got big expectations for what we’ll see Saturday.”

THE RIVALRY

Miami is the worst possible mirror for Florida State.

The Hurricanes arrive undefeated, ranked No. 3 in the AP Poll, and No. 1 in ESPN’s playoff projections.

Cristobal, a Miami native who played in this rivalry during the Wide Right years, doesn’t need to be told what it means.

“Our players, alumni bases, fans, they all understand how intense this rivalry is,” Cristobal said. “But more importantly, they understand the importance of practice and preparation, and that’s our focus.”

Since 1970, the teams have met every year, often with championships or Heismans in the balance. Wide Right I and II. Ed Reed and Sean Taylor. Bobby Bowden vs. Butch Davis. Recruiting battles that split Florida’s talent pool.

Miami leads the all-time series 36–33, including last year’s 36–14 win.

THE STAKES

The programs now sit in different places.

Miami looks steady and balanced — outscoring opponents 147–46 through four weeks and winning with defense as much as offense.

Miami Hurricanes head coach Mario Cristobal pumps his fists in victory after the Canes defeat the Florida Gators during their NCAA football game at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida, on Saturday, September 20, 2025.
Miami Hurricanes head coach Mario Cristobal pumps his fists in victory after the Canes defeat the Florida Gators during their NCAA football game at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida, on Saturday, September 20, 2025. PHOTO BY AL DIAZ adiaz@miamiherald.com

Florida State looks dangerous but volatile — capable of dropping 700 yards one week and losing in overtime the next.

Norvell admitted when pressed on his team’s physicality. “Too many times we’re making contact and the ball is going the wrong direction,” he said. “I want better, expect better, and these players are going to demand better from themselves.”

For Miami, this is about validation. After two decades of buying stock that never paid off, Miami legitimately looks like a playoff contender. A win in Tallahassee keeps them undefeated and strengthens their College Football Playoff grips.

For Florida State, it’s about identity. The stats and highlights suggest the Seminoles are still a giant. The win over Alabama hinted at it too. But the Virginia loss reminded everyone that perception is fragile.

“This is a game you remember for the rest of your life,” Norvell said. “It means something for all levels of the program — the passion, the pride, the recruiting. We know the weight of this week and the opportunity that comes with it.”

Saturday night won’t settle the debate forever. But it will answer whether Florida State still belongs in college football’s highest tier — or whether the Seminoles are just another talented team trying to get back to where Miami already looks headed.

John Devine
Miami Herald
John Devine has worked with the Miami Herald since 1996. He has worked as a Broward sports editor, Broward news editor, assistant sports editor and deputy sports editor before he became executive sports editor in 2021.
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