Ghislaine Maxwell’s DOJ interviews released: What she said about Trump, Clinton

The Justice Department on Friday released transcripts of Ghislaine Maxwell’s interview with the deputy attorney general, where she talked about meeting Donald Trump, the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton and denied introducing Prince Andrew to the late, disgraced financier.

The 420 pages of Todd Blanche’s interview with Maxwell, who is serving 20 years in federal prison on sex trafficking charges tied to her relationship with Epstein, were posted on the Justice Department’s website.

In the interview, conducted in Florida over two days last month, Maxwell said she never saw any inappropriate behavior between Epstein and underaged girls, praised Trump as “very kind to me” and denied Clinton ever visited Epstein’s infamous Caribbean island.

It’s unclear if the release of the transcript will put to rest the numerous conspiracy theories about Epstein. Trump’s loyal MAGA supporters have long touted claims that Epstein’s death was not a suicide, that he was blackmailing powerful individuals and that there is a “client list” of men tied to him.

“I just want to reiterate again, there is no list that I am aware of,” Maxwell told Blanche.

She added that she had did not have “any reason to believe that” powerful officials had Epstein killed. “I also think it’s ludicrous, because if that — I also happen to think if that is what they wanted, they would’ve had plenty of opportunity when he wasn’t in jail.”

But, she said, “I do not believe he died by suicide, no.”

“I don’t believe in the blackmail or in any of this, I don’t think Epstein had a hit on like that,” she added. “If it is indeed murder, I believe it was an internal situation.”

The release of the transcript came the same day the Justice Department turned over its first tranche of files to the House Oversight committee, which subpoenaed the information. The committee said it received “thousands of pages” of information.

Those files will eventually be made public, the committee has said, after the committee works with the Justice Department to redact victims’ names and sensitive information that could affect how investigations are conducted.

President Trump said on Friday he supports the release of files and urged Attorney General Pam Bondi to turn them over.

“Innocent people shouldn’t be hurt but I’m in support of keeping it totally open. I couldn’t care less. You got a lot of people that could be mentioned under those files that don’t deserve to be,” he noted, adding “but I have said to Pam and everybody else, give them everything you can give them, because it’s a Democrat hoax. It’s just a hoax. The whole Epstein thing is a Democrat hoax.”

The interviews

Maxwell, who is said to be seeking a pardon from the president, told Blanche she met Trump in 1990 in New York because Trump was friendly with her father, Robert Maxwell. And she noted her father liked Trump’s first wife Ivana because both of them were from Czechoslovakia.

“My father was friendly with him and liked him very much. And I think, should be said that he also very much liked Ivana, because she was also from Czechoslovakia where my dad was from,” Maxwell said.

She acknowledged visiting Trump’s private club Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, describing it as social visits, noting she “mostly” went alone and not with Epstein.

“Trump was always very cordial and very kind to me,” Maxwell said.

Maxwell didn’t reveal a lot of new information about Trump’s relationship with Epstein. The two men were often seen together in social settings in New York and Palm Beach in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Trump never got a massage that she saw, Maxwell told Blanche.

“I actually never saw the President in any type of massage setting. I never witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in any way. The President was never inappropriate with anybody. In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects,” she said.

She said of Trump and Epstein that “they were friendly like people are in social settings. I don’t — I don’t think they were close friends or I certainly never witnessed the President in any of — I don’t recall ever seeing him in his house, for instance. I actually never saw the President in any type of massage setting. I never witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in any way.”

Trump has maintained that he and Epstein’s dealings ended in 2004 and denied seeing any inappropriate behavior from Epstein, who died in a New York prison in 2019 while awaiting federal charges on sex trafficking.

Maxwell backed up the president’s story in her interview. She also supported Trump’s denial of a Wall Street Journal report that he contributed a sexually suggestive, hand-drawn letter to an album for Epstein’s 50th birthday.

“I did ask some people,” Maxwell said of the birthday album. “I don’t remember Mr. Trump. I don’t remember who I did ask, but Epstein also asked people himself directly.”

When asked, she said she didn’t remember seeing a card from Trump in the album.

Bill Clinton

Trump has charged that men like former President Bill Clinton and former Harvard chief Larry Summers had closer relationships with Epstein than he did. He has repeatedly claimed Clinton went to Epstein’s private island “29 times.”

But Maxwell said she never saw Clinton with Epstein and downplayed the two men’s friendship.

“I didn’t see President Clinton being interested in Epstein. He was just a rich guy with a plane,” she said.

“The ex-president never came to the island,” Maxwell said directly.

She also revealed a closer friendship with the Clintons than previously reported, saying she had visited the couple at their house in Chappaqua “a few times.”

Epstein and Hillary Clinton did not have any dealings, Maxwell said, but added Epstein may have contributed to the Clinton Global Initiative, which both Clintons were a part of.

She described Summers and Epstein as “friends.”

“I think he spoke to Mr. Epstein about business a lot, but I think they were friends. They were friendly,” she said of Summers.

Asked if Summers visited any Epstein properties or flew on Epstein’s private plane, Maxwell responded: “He may have, but I don’t think.”

Prince Andrew

Maxwell also denied reports she introduced Epstein to Prince Andrew.

“I did not introduce him to Prince Andrew,” she noted. “That is a flat untruth.”

“I would never have introduced them. It would never have occurred to me to introduce them. I couldn’t imagine them being friends. Two chalk and cheeses would never — I mean, for real, there’s nothing there to connect them,” she added.

She blamed Sarah Ferguson, the prince’s ex-wife, for Epstein and Andrew’s relationship, saying she “thought that Sarah was trying to put the moves on Jeffrey.”

“I think Sarah is the one that pushed that. And they met and hung out, I want to say two or three times that had nothing to do with me. I wasn’t communicating with Andrew, I wasn’t in touch with him. And I know this because I was annoyed and I felt left out, and I felt disrespected and I was like, this is weird. I couldn’t even imagine Epstein and Andrew together. And I thought that Sarah was trying to put the moves on Jeffrey, if I’m being honest, and I thought the whole thing was annoying and I was pissed off.”

Asked why she thought that, Maxwell said, “My female intuition.”

Maxwell also forcefully denied any claims about Andrew and Virginia Giuffre, who prior to her death this year became a public crusader for sex-abuse survivors.

The victims’ names were redacted in the transcript of the interview but it was clear from the questioning when Giuffre was being discussed. Maxwell was asked about a photo featuring the prince and a girl with her standing in the background. That photo was Giuffre’s.

“It’s “fake, just to be clear,” Maxwell said of the picture.

Giuffre claimed she was forced to have several sexual encounters with Prince Andrew in the early 2000s at the age of 17. She sued him in February 2022. He denied the allegations. They reached an out of court settlement in the civil case. The full amount was undisclosed but was reported to be about $16 million.

Maxwell denied any sexual relationship between the two.

“Could Andrew have come to the house to see me or see Epstein, and say hi and she had been there? Yes. I can’t say that that didn’t happen. But what I can absolutely, categorically say is that I never, at any time, set Andrew up to have relations with her or any other human being ever. And I can categorically state that her — her characterization of whatever may or may not have happened, could — physically would just no,” she said.

Giuffre claimed Maxwell recruited her from the locker room of Mar-a-Lago, where she was working as an assistant. She said she was reading a book on massage therapy when Maxwell approached her and offered to help find her a job in that field.

Maxwell, however, said she didn’t recall hiring anyone from Trump’s club.

“Do you have a recollection of you ever recruiting a masseuse from Mar-a-Lago spa to give — to go give a private massage to Mr. Epstein?” Blanche asked her.

“I’ve never recruited a masseuse from Mar-a-Lago for that, as far as I remember. I can’t ever recollect doing that,” Maxwell responded.

Giuffre died by suicide in April 2025.

‘I never saw an aggressive move’

Maxwell also denied seeing, participating or having knowledge of Epstein with underaged girls.

“I’m not saying that Mr. Epstein did not do those things. I’m not casting those — I’m not going to say — I don’t feel comfortable saying that today, given what I now know to be true. So I am not here to defend him. But what I can say is that I did not participate in that activity,” Maxwell said.

She added that she could “categorically state that had any child said to me that they were 14, 15, 16, maybe not 17, because 17 in England, I mean, if someone had said they were 17, I don’t — but I’ve read so much that that did happen. I mean, I just — I had no — I would never have permitted such a thing, I would not — I don’t even know what I would have done.”

Epstein, who had homes around the country, sexually abused girls and young women as far back as 1993. In 2005, he was accused of luring high school girls, some as young as 14, to his Palm Beach mansion to give him massages and instead sexually assaulted them.

Maxwell claimed she never witnessed any of that.

“I never saw anybody who didn’t want to be with him and be with him, maybe socially or whatever. I never saw anybody, not under any form of duress in any type of situation where they were, as I would characterize it, looking uncomfortable or in any way distressed.”

She went on to add “any time I saw anybody with him, they were happy to be with him.”

It was normal she claimed, for Epstein to ask people “all the time, whoever you were, to massage his feet. It just was — he’d be sitting there, and he’d have somebody massage his feet, or squeeze his shoulders.”

“I never saw an aggressive move.”

She was also dismissive of claims from Epstein’s victims that they were forced to have sex with other men. And she denied helping procure any services for men and receiving payment. A federal jury in December 2021 found Maxwell guilty of five counts, including sex trafficking of minors, for recruiting and grooming teenagers for Epstein between 1999 and 2007.

“Maybe did something sexual, they’re men, I wasn’t in the room. I cannot tell you if that happened. And if it did, not — I never paid for that.”

“A man wants sexual favors, he will find that. They didn’t have to come to Epstein for that. Now did some? Okay. I don’t know. I wasn’t there. I didn’t see it.”

This story was originally published August 22, 2025 at 4:32 PM.