Q: You advise people to eat just a few bites of fattening food and they'll be satisfied. How do you go from eating two slices of chocolate cake to three bites? What process is going to give someone the naturally thin attitude to want only three bites?

A: They might not start with three bites. They might go from eating the entire piece of chocolate cake to eating all but one bite of the chocolate cake, because they've learned to cancel their membership in the clean plate club.

Q: What's the difference between will power and control?

A: Will power is the indication that you're good when you can just say no to things. There's this connotation that you're some force of nature, that you can just deny yourself or refuse yourself anything. Control is you're just driving: I don't need to eat this entire thing. It's not because I'm weak or strong. It's just because I intellectually understand that my diet is a bank account and so I'd rather be able to spend a little bit later. When nothing becomes forbidden, you don't really need to have will power.

If you really want something you should have it. But people have to be self-aware. Just because you're watching a Superbowl commercial doesn't mean you really want a cheeseburger.

Q: What do you find hardest about sticking to the ''Naturally Thin'' guidelines?

A: I find nothing hard about it as all. It's the most liberating thing in the entire world. I'm 20 years older and 20 pounds thinner and exercise at least half the amount.

Q: Do ''Naturally Thin'' girls need to exercise to stay that way?

A: They need to exercise a bit, but they need to be the same way that they are with food. They need to not have exercise noise. There is no benefit to joining a gym, working out every single day and, because you missed three days, beating yourself up about it and stopping for three days or three months. It needs to be a good relationship.

Q: What's the difference between voice and noise?

A: Voice is an internal dialogue that basically is navigating you as if you were in a car or on a road trip. It's a quiet conversation. Noise is an internal chatter: ``Oh, my God, I was bad, I ate that, I feel fat.''

Q: What did you have for breakfast?

A: Starbucks low-fat lemon poppyseed muffin and a grande soy misto. Which, by the way, isn't a great investment. But that is what I wanted.

Q: You can't say you're going to atone for it later, because that would be the wrong philosophy.

A: I'll be aware and I probably won't have a grilled cheese or pasta for lunch. Maybe a salad or tuna. Just being aware, that's voice.

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