He recalls her taking a drag on a cigarette, shaking her head and telling the men that they would be executed if there were any attempts to rescue them.
I can never duplicate the way she said it. I dont have that terrorist thing, Gonsalvez said. But the way she said it was very threatening. It was meant to scare the s--- out of us. And it was meant to let me know that Were going to kill you.
Nijmeijer went on to explain how the FARC was simply an answer to the terrorism of the Colombian state. And she said the United States would never lift the embargo on Cuba because it was scared its citizens would flock to the island paradise because its so great there.
The more she spoke, the more I realized shes insane and the more frightened I became because these are the people holding us, Gonsalvez said. That was really my first taste of the FARC leadership.
Nijmeijer is facing charges of abduction and rebellion in Colombia and has been indicted in the United States for the kidnapping of the U.S. contractors.
Even if the peace talks succeed, Gonsalvez said he doubts the United States would drop those charges.
I see her future as death in the jungle, or one day she will be captured and brought here to the United States, he said.
One of the most sensitive issues of the peace talks might be how the government balances the rights of victims like Gonsalvez against the need to broker a deal with the guerrillas. Many of the FARCs high command are facing murder, kidnapping and drug trafficking charges.
Gonsalvez said the government should be lenient with the rank-and file, but that justice can only be served by punishing the leadership.
Victims rights should be at the top of the agenda not the bottom of it, he said. But we want peace in Colombia and youre not going to get a terrorist group to turn in their weapons unless you offer them some type of if not amnesty, then some sort of negotiated disciplinary measure I think you have to offer them something to give them an incentive to turn in their weapons and stop terrorizing the country.
On July 2, 2008, Gonsalvez, Stansell and Howes were rescued along with former presidential candidate Ingrid Betancourt and 11 other hostages. The daring and inventive plan, called Operation Check, was hatched by Colombias special forces and has become the subject of movies, books and lore. Gonsalvez and his companions wrote their account of the rescue in Out of Captivity Surviving 1,967 Days in the Colombian Jungle.
Since his release, Gonsalvez continues to work with Northrop Grumman and volunteers with the Miami-based Developing Minds Foundation, which provides mentoring to child soldiers, many of whom have come out of the FARC ranks.
Gonsalvez said many of the troops were teenagers or adolescents who were trapped in the organization. I saw several of them commit suicide. That was their only way out, he said.
I always thought that one way to really hurt the FARC is to get the attention of these kids and try to call them out of the jungle, he said, let them know that theres a better life on the outside.
Hes also hoping the talks will end Colombias half-century conflict. But he worries that people might forget that the FARC are terrorists who have kidnapped children and infants, make their living off the cocaine trade and killed his two crewmates.
I hate to see people being tricked by this romantic ideal of a guerilla group that strives for social justice, he said. The argument is wonderful and, if it was true, it would be something. But its a lie, a total farce.